StokedUp

Well SWIM is going to have a go at this soon.
He is going to get some 25% cotton paper from the store (that's all they have) and print a scan of a note onto it.
Now, the only thing that will be hard to forge is the foil string down the note, and on the newer notes, the watermarks.
What do counterfeiters do about these?
BTW these are £ not $.
Slim, you got any experience on this

BTW this is all purely hypothetical and in no way do I condone counterfeiting.

Orinux

from what i learned ( in my dreams of course not IRL) was that you dont need to become as perfect as possible to the image quality. Go pass them into clubs or anywhere dark. NEVER IN A STRIP CLUB THOUGH those black lights make those motherfuckers shine like crazy ( i fucked it up like that once).
Basic Photoshop skills can make a High Quality print.
What i would recommend is that you rub the two sides of the paper together when the job is done to give it the "old and used feel" it works like magic , make sure you do the corners too.
TO really see how you did get some real notes and the "FUN" ones and mix em all together and feel them with close eyes and see if you can tell. You can always use a friend (trust able ones) this is serious shit and see if he can tell the difference.
Don't look at a 'FUN" note in a weak light like the ones at your house and make judgment about how good it looks. Always look at them in a a ambient with White neon light to really see ts appearance.
Act as a cool as you can when you use the notes and if at a bar its a GREAT idea to tip the person each and every time you buy smth. You gain the trust and you will be the first they want to serve in the bar no matter how big the line is
Can't think of any other ideas now ( long time since i had this dream) But man you make some nice money while having fun) Would make 500+ in a period of 3-4 hours. But it comes to a point where you feel you need to stop for a while and get to smth else.

Also what are you using for a printer? Not sure about UK but in US some printers wont print currency!
And i know ink is expensive but get the best out there don't get cheap in this stuff because it will pay off pretty fast!!

StokedUp

Thanks for all that, there's some good info there. Well obviously the better looking it is, the more people you can fool
Yea I heard about that printer thing, SWIM tried printing it out though and it worked (Epson R800)
SWIM might try it next time he's in a bar
Obviously if it had the foil thing though, it would be a lot more believable.
I also saw that scam on the real hustle of them getting rid of counterfeit notes at the newsagent you seen that?

Orinux

You mean with the fat guy who buys the DVD and goes from there?
I see you worry too much about the strip which is smth nobody even looks at. If so you can start from bleaching smaller notes and print larger notes on them, this will pass all the counterfeit tests!

Just be careful and if you ever get caught on the spot RUNNNNNN this is federal shit man!

Wizzle

I'm guessing just get some Paper and a Printer.

StokedUp

Lol I guess you didn't read the thread
Looks like the bleaching things out the window too.
All the notes are different sizes, the watermarks in different places, and the foil strips in different places.

RoundElephant

You guys suggest inkjet or laser?

StokedUp

Inkjet. Laser is kinda shiny and leaves trails that can get you caught.

RoundElephant

So what printer do you suggest?

Would this one work?
hxxp://www.amazon.com/Epson-WorkForce-Printer-Black-C11CA40201/dp/B001DJ80S6
Or this
hxxp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3479035&CatId=242

StokedUp

Both look good although you don't know for sure whether they will be blocked from printing currency until you buy it.
The one I have works though (Epson R800)
It's a lucky dip really. There was a thread on Totse with a list of confirmed working printers before it died.

RoundElephant

Well the second one has better resolution so I might just go with it.


How would one go about making a watermark?

eclipse

Hey guys I posted earlier but I think it got deleted. I was wondering if anybody had any information regarding counterfeiting currencies other then American. Particularly interested in the plastic money that is found in a couple of countries. Also any difficulties that may be encountered with vibrantly colored money such as matching the tone.

I really need a source for plastic sheets which are either similar or the same to that used in the notes. Also not sure if any special ink will be required to better “stick” to the plastic. Also not sure what sort of printer might be needed currently I’m think I would need one for the colured background and another for the more detailed line work. If anybody has any experience, knowledge or ideas it would be greatly appreciated.

Obviously this is purely hypothetical and I have no intent to act on said information.

sinesthesia

From what I've heard, Photoshop will not print a note of currency, and neither will most printers. I wonder if GIMP will. Penalties for counterfeiting are pretty hefty, I should also mention.

As for texture and feel, I've heard that throwing the currency in a dryer on a very low setting with a bunch of poker chips will give the notes a very realistic texture.

all_for_war

lol just like how they did it in Lethal Weapon 4

RoundElephant

There are ways around this.

You could use photoshop 7.

sinesthesia

Interesting, I didn't know ps7 didn't have that protection. Someone will have to try that.

Orinux

Or another easy way i used is this.
Since Adobe bridge is stupid when it comes to this activities and Photoshop trust's all material form Bridge than just open the pic with Adobe Bridge first and than import it to Photoshop and mess with that motherfucker as much as you want Photoshop wont say a word and it will print it for you too if you want. I wouldn't recommend printing with Photoshop. Best one is Paint believe it or not, to print bills. It print the exact size you guys want it to. Make sure you check on US , UK currency sizes first

sinesthesia

Well importing* is never the problem, it's the printing. Funny that you claim Paint will print bills. Since I have no experience, I would imagine Paint would have protection as well. Way to go M$.

Orinux

Nah i used that each and every time lol.
I think the key to bypass all this security shit is to find the oldest computer possibly never updated and do all you shit in there!

RoundElephant

Anyone have a list of printers that would work?
I'm looking for a hi-res, good price, and lack of anti-counter fitting features.
I heard there was a list somewhere.

StokedUp

On Totse. So you're screwed unless you make another thread. Or someone backed it.

Orinux

Well def do not waste your money on: Lexmark 7100 series and Epson stylys all in one.

What i recommend doing is: Go to staples and buy a printer see if ti works. If not return it and get another one.
do this until you find the right one. oh and get the ink cartridges too if you want lol they will never know

RoundElephant

How is the lexmark a waste of money, it has such high resolution for it's price.

WAN

would it be possible to feed fake dollar bills into a vending machine, and collect the change/coins?

In other words, are those vending machines smart enough to tell fake bills from real ones?

RoundElephant

They are ULTRA smart at detecting fake bills. They look for the security strip and magnetic ink. Just think about how picky they are about real money.

Your average Joe would not be nearly as knowledgeable.

Orinux

the 7100 series wont print your "fun" bills buddy!
Instead it will give you a link where find jobs...

RoundElephant

How do you know? Can you provide some evidence? And if so what printer is in the same price range and will still print bills?

Orinux

If you read above you will see that i had experience in this things ok!
Of course i am just kidding i never did such a thing...
One that will do it for sure is lexmark x5410. Make sure u buy the highest priced ink with it, and put the settings on high quality both at the printer and your pc.
Good luck and dont do this kinds of stuff guys its very illegal.

Sincerely:
Barack Obama

RoundElephant

Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to stay well within the guidelines of the law.

nostrumfiend

I just looked up this printer and saw how insanely cheap it was. Last time I read a thread like this (may have been at totse) people were suggesting printers in the 500-800 range.

So what was the character in that book you are writing's experience with this printer?

Orinux

Well he used this printer and used the highest quality ink that could fit this printer which was about 70$. But this guy didn't care he knew he was gonna get his money back. He also purchased a paper cutter which made his job easily for 25$.
He would print about 2000$ on a Wednesday night or Thursday night and he would split the "fun" money with his friend and would go barhopping. Of course he didn't care about dancing with girls or anything. I mean he was there to work. First he would buy a drink with real money and see how the reaction of the bartender was and if she checked the bills given to her.Than he used to buy drinks with "fun" money and tip the bartender each and every time. The places he went to had usually like 3-4 bars and he would use each bar about 4-5 times. He never really drunk the drinks but spilled them or threw them away, who cares you know its free drinks and he needed to be concentrated. He put the change in one pocket and kept the "fun" money in his wallet. He would go with a smile and look at the bartender in the eye when ordering creating a "relationship" and would tip her nicely so next time he would be the first one to get served and the bartender wouldn't care what he gave them he just would run and get the change for this GREAT customer. He looked and avoided black lighted bars because he knew they would shine like a bitch and he would fail in his mission.
He also noticed that girls were more attracted to this guys since they didn't really give a fuck about anyone in there. Of course they were dressed with expensive brads clothes like: D&G , Lacoste , Prada, Armani, Christian Audiger or even abercrombie jeans (never wear their shirts in a club plz) and many known brands. They would put TONS of cologne on them which they got for free at Macy's or abercrombie ( their perfume is the shittttt we all know it). Girls seem to love this guys and started talking to them. Than this two guys would use this a chance to buy them some drinks of course using their "fun" money and the bitches would love it. They would leave the bars with about 800$ in the pocket (each) and maybe they would drive back or go to the houses or dorms of the girls they met. If they went to their houses they would fuck them get em drunk and than rob the shit out of them and i mean everything: laptops, TI calculators. cameras ipods or w.e this rich lil bitches had and would slowly open the door and leave home around 4am. They would split the money ( in case one or another made more or less) and go home sleep to get ready for the next night.
They would do this 2-3 times a week and making a profit of 2000-2300 each a week. The max they reached was 4357$ each.- but that is another story

They stooped about 5 months ago. They decided they did enough and bought themselves to nice cars. One got a 2005 Mercedes E300 and the other one a BMW 5series.
The rest was deposited in the bank and now they are still working like they used to before and laying low just enjoying their money.
Not sure if they will do it again soon. Maybe out of state or smth like that but for now they have all they need.
Ah life is good guys.
Hope you liked the story and learned smth for it.
And remember that everything matter when you are doing this. Appearance body language drinks you order the person you are hanging around the club with and stuff like that. Try to look as rich as you can and it will go smooth!
Thanks!!

Oh and BTW i hope you all are 21 years or older. If you are not than there is no way you can follow the same plan as the guys in my book did.
Drinking age you know???

Nisko

That's fucking bad ass. Good stuff.

RoundElephant

Does this high quality ink have a name?

Orinux

Its the lexmark one not sure about the name but i know there is three choices of lexmark brand for this printer and they have diff prices. The most expensive one will do a great job.
Make sure you have no Internet connection while doing this....

StokedUp

The more expensive it is, generally the better quality you're getting. See what's around.

RoundElephant

What denomination do you guys suggest?

Leshrac

Download : CIA key casting manual.

Euros coins can be split in "half" if you smash strongly on the inner piece, it then separates into 2 rings.

Apply the same molding procedures for keys in the manual to these 2 rings, melt iron or copper and re-create them (hint: do like 10 at a time!).

Spraypaint both with nearly matching colors and VOILA; fake coins !

If you get your setup right you can make 100 to 200 coins a day with ridiculously basic materials that don't cost jack shit.

nostrumfiend

1. I'm surprised the girls that got robbed didnt get their guy friends to try and find the character at the bar

2. I always heard some printers can't print novelty bills and to disconnect from the internet when doing it. How the hell do they detect this?

3. Did the character worry about foil strips and/or watermarks?

I am also writing a short story. My character has a brilliant and plausible way to get 80-90% of the novelty bills he spends back as legitimate currency. The character in my story is under 21 so the bar scene is not the best idea.

Orinux

1. Man plz they are either sluts or too drunk to remember wtf happened and i live too far from them to even think about getting me back lol. I also never gave my real name or any real info so its all straight up. Most of them i still talk to ha...

2. I am not sure how they detect it but they will print if there is no internet connection for sure. I think its just safer if you do so!

3. Nah the guys i was talking about did not care about the foil strip because nobody looks at them especially in a busy bar and dark place. Same thing for the watermark.

I see how your character is under drinking age so i am not really sure where he could do this kinds of stuff. Sorry!

Leshrac

Modern scanners / printers are nearly ALL locked from scanning or printing fake bills.